Sunday, September 08, 2013

OtherGround's 9/11/01 Thread



NOTEProps to jkd_guy for sending me this. As this Wednesday is 9/11, I wanted to archive this thread from the Otherground forum posted on 9/11/01.






explosion at World Trade Center!!
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Subject:
From: mattmc
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 08:56 AM
Turn on your TV, there was a massive explosion at the top of the world trade center. There is a rumor that a plane hit the building but there is no confirmation. Could be terrorism....
matthew


Subject: RE: INFO
From: Mark1
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:00 AM
e.kaye needs to give us an on the scene report.
Mark


Subject: RE: INFO
From: e_double
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:01 AM
d@ng, that is some sh*t. they have a pic of it on www.cnn.com

Subject: RE: INFO
From: ThirdCoastMarcus
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:01 AM
Damn, that looks bad...

Subject: RE: INFO
From: ThirdCoastMarcus
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:02 AM
Another plane just hit it!

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Mark1
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:02 AM
2 planes?

Subject: RE: INFO
From: ThirdCoastMarcus
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:04 AM
Oh my goodness, it looks like a friggin 737!

Subject: RE: INFO
From: buck_naked
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:05 AM


Subject: RE: INFO
From: ThirdCoastMarcus
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:05 AM
Yea, I turned it on, and then all the sudden another plane comes flying along and smacks into the other tower. It was a huge plane. This could be worse than McVeigh.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: buck_naked
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:06 AM
edit

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Mark1
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:07 AM
Holy shit balls!!!
I can't get on cnn.com
Mark

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Redneck
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:07 AM
The news are saying its a terrorist attack. The top level of the building just exploded! Its either an attack or something is fucking with these planes navigational systems.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: buck_naked
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:08 AM


Subject: RE: INFO
From: billyball2
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:09 AM


Subject: RE: INFO
From: scatboy
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:10 AM
that's bullshit, there is noway it was navigational error. one plane hit one building, and another 18 minutesw later another plane hit the second building. Terrorists.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Redneck
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:12 AM
Holy Fuck!
Kamikaze's in 2001 ?

Subject: RE: INFO
From: ThirdCoastMarcus
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:13 AM
If they hijacked a commercial flight and did this, immagine the body count. This is horrible.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Ilonggo
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:16 AM
damn...

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Tha Stanimal
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:16 AM
HOLY SHIT!!!!!! TERRORIST IS MY GUESS!!!!

Subject: RE: INFO
From: e_double
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:18 AM
that would have been my first guess too, but i don't want to jump to conclusions. if it is though, that is messed up !

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Trust
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:19 AM
Welcome to Israel.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: stobe
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:20 AM
wipe out the fucking middle east now!

Subject: RE: INFO
From: jkd_guy
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:20 AM
Dude, I was on the subway when I saw that the whole sky was full of smoke.
Let me tell you, when we saw that the smoke lead to the WTC and that there was a huge hole in it, the whole train was like 'Oh shit...'
-Tony

Subject: RE: INFO
From: frigginjoe
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:21 AM
And my gf and her sisters work in the Trade Center and Stock Exchange... fucking great.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: frankiscool
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:21 AM
Damn! Is anyone on the forum in NY now?

Subject: RE: INFO
From: e_double
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:21 AM
yep ! what trust said. if this does turn out to be terrorists i want to hear all of those dumb friggin' bleeding hearts start defending terrorism now like they have been for the past several months.


Subject: RE: INFO
From: Redneck
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:21 AM
They are now saying that it is most lekely a terrorist attack. Who would be crazy enough to do this except a group from the Middle East? The PLO maybe?

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Kirik
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:21 AM
I can't get on any Net news pages. Most grateful for any info posted here.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Matt Palmer
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:22 AM
it has nothing to do with Israel, more than likely it is to do with Afghanistan

Subject: RE: INFO
From: nameless
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:22 AM
Replacement pilots?

Subject: RE: INFO
From: buck_naked
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:22 AM


Subject: RE: INFO
From: Ilonggo
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:23 AM
ok, think hard; does the date sept 11 means anything; historical, national or international?

Subject: RE: INFO
From: buck_naked
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:23 AM


Subject: RE: INFO
From: frigginjoe
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:23 AM
frank, my gf LI Brooklyn Girl works in the exchange which is not in the WT, but damned close and a very likely next target, and her sisters work in the Trade Center. I can't reach anyone though.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: tomthumb
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:23 AM
I am in NYC right now. My 2nd fucking day of work!!! All I hear out the window is fire engines.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Trust
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:24 AM
"it has nothing to do with Israel, more than likely it is to do with Afghanistan "
You misunderstood - the fear that will now take hold is the fear people in Israel live with every day.
My secretary's mother just called - she was supposed to fly somewhere tomorrow. She said she is cancelling the flight because of this.
Terrorism works.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: jkd_guy
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:24 AM
All I know is....
"Is the US gonna kick Terrorist ass now?"
-Tony

Subject: RE: INFO
From: bryanand
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:25 AM
I can see this from the roof of my office building, it's REAL fucked up. I almost took a job near the top of the WTC, which has me almost shaking right now.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Mark1
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:25 AM
LOL @ "Michael Jordan closer to NBA return"
Smart money says it's Osama Bin Laden
Mark

Subject: RE: INFO
From: e_double
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:25 AM
any more news on if its terrorists ?

Subject: RE: INFO
From: jkd_guy
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:25 AM
It seems like all cell phone and land lines are getting busy signals...probably from ppl calling friends/family in the WTC area
-Tony

Subject: RE: INFO
From: tomthumb
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:26 AM
I am midtown right now and the fucking fire engines are zooming down the block!!

Subject: RE: INFO
From: drynne
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:26 AM
All major trading firms in Jersey City being evacuated. - Reports that a plane was hijacked and deliberately flown into WTC - fuck!!! my friend works at Cantor Fitzgerald (thats on the top floors. - guys who work at Lehman Brothers said they saw people jumping (this is total rumour because we would have heard reports of this already I think)

Subject: RE: INFO
From: bryanand
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:26 AM
I think the planes were hijacked, no way can big commercial planes do that by mistake.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: e_double
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:26 AM
trust, you read my mind sir.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: sabrutat
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:26 AM
Holy crap. I'm watching it CBS right now. Fucking unbelievable...

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Ilonggo
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:28 AM
two names:
1)osama bin laden
2)saddam hussein

Subject: RE: INFO
From: scatboy
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:28 AM
what does the WTC house?

Subject: RE: INFO
From: scatboy
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:29 AM
terrible, did you guys see the footage of the second plane smash into it?

Subject: RE: INFO
From: e_double
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:29 AM
again, i don't want to jump to conclusions on this. but if this is terrorists from the middle east there is gonna be some heck to pay.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Trust
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:30 AM
I hope LI Brooklyn Girl is alright.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Matt Palmer
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:31 AM
Trust, my bad. I see what you mean. I imagine it's the Teleban, apparently both planes hijacked in Boston.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: eviladam
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:32 AM
how soon do you think we start bombing the bad guys?

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Redneck
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:32 AM
Are they evacuating all the skyscrapers? Or do they think its safe now? Whats the significance of the WTC?
The President has just said that terrorism will not stand and his heart is with the family of the victims. They are very concerned about the possibility of a third plane attacking. Some journo is hinting that Iraq might be behind it.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: scatboy
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:32 AM
where is friggin joe?

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Bones
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:33 AM
If it was bin laden, he just wrote the Middle East their death warrent. We will burn them to the ground.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: tjmitch
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:33 AM



Subject: RE: INFO
From: jkd_guy
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:33 AM
Dont know if its anything special about the dates, but isnt today the election for a new Mayor of NY?
-Tony

Subject: RE: INFO
From: drynne
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:34 AM
Sooner or later someone will claim responsibility - these terrorists are too arrogant not to, they have to take credit. When they do, wherever they are or call home, will become a big fucking hole because we will and should bomb the fuck out of them!

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Matt Palmer
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:34 AM
If it's Afghani terrorists, I can't see what the US will do that the rest of the world won't object to. The US certainly can't just start bombing Afghanistan, although I imagine some gesture will be made by the Bush administration.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: bryanand
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:35 AM
Yes, it's primary day in NY and lots of things are closed. Which makes it dangerous because that means alot more people are going to be walking around in the streets.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Tap Out Boy
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:38 AM
The FBI said it was investigating reports of a hijacking. A United Airlines employee said he had heard reports that an American Airlines jet had been hijacked and was one of the two aircraft that flew into the center. It was not clear if there were passengers on board.
The Story From MSNBC

There will be hell to pay! GW may not be the best financial guy, but I don't think he's gonna stand still on this one!


Subject: RE: INFO
From: billyball2
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:39 AM
One plane was an American 767 out of Boston. Not a small plane.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: theTexasPsycho
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:39 AM
The just said on the radio that a palestinian terrorist group has claimed responsibility.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: sabrutat
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:40 AM
Apparently the Pentagon has been attacked too - news coming in

Subject: RE: INFO
From: e_double
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:40 AM
if it is a palestinian group then there is gonna be some heck to pay !!

Subject: RE: INFO
From: jkd_guy
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:41 AM
'the Pentagon has been attacked too'
Oh shit, this is pretty serious then...
I hope its not going to turn out like 'The Siege'
-Tony

Subject: RE: INFO
From: ucmike
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:41 AM
i'm at newark airport. we can see it burning from our trailer. all flights in the ny metro area are grounded. its so quiet here its weird.
this is no fucking joke and theres nothing funny about it.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: sabrutat
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:41 AM
bomb, apparently

Subject: RE: INFO
From: theTexasPsycho
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:41 AM
i haven't heard anything about the pentagon

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Mark1
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:41 AM
Stef,
Seriously??? Damn.
Mark

Subject: RE: INFO
From: e_double
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:41 AM
sabrutat, you are kidding right ?!? this is some serious sh*t !!

Subject: RE: INFO
From: theTexasPsycho
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:41 AM
i haven't heard anything about the pentagon

Subject: RE: INFO
From: MysteryOpponent
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:41 AM
Oh shit......now an explosion at the Pentagon!!

Subject: RE: INFO
From: sabrutat
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:42 AM
big fucking bomb...

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Matt Palmer
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:42 AM
Apparently there's 6 dead and over 1,000 injured. I imagine the real figure is a lot higher, does anyone know if the planes were actually carrying people?
Apparently, my mistake, it is the work of Palestinian terrorists, not Afghan at first thought. Although I imagine there will be a number of people claiming this. I don't think we'll find out the real culprit for a few hours until the terrorists at Boston airport can be identified nationally, as in someone can tell where they are from.
Apparently there is a Washington building now on fire around the Pentagon

Subject: RE: INFO
From: bryanand
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:42 AM
The Pentagon?

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Matt Palmer
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:43 AM
Also a third plane has been confirmed as hijacked. The Whitehouse has been evacuated

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Tap Out Boy
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:43 AM
If it's the Palestinians, I've just changed my whole opinion of the Isreali/Pal conflict. Fuck the Palestians, the USA needs a good war anyway!

Subject: RE: INFO
From: sabrutat
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:44 AM
Heliport side of the pentagon - they don't know if its a bomb or a plane yet...

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Steve Loftin
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:44 AM
Bomb found at pentagon heli port. oh shit.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: buck_naked
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:44 AM
6 dead and 1,000 injured is the exact number of the 1993 bombing?? Are you sure you got the right info?

Subject: RE: INFO
From: e_double
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:44 AM
matt palmer, that was not really a mistake imo. those islamic fundamentalists from pakistan to the west bank all work fairly closesly together from what i hear. they even have like 'terrorist colleges' in pakistan where they all go to train. its really f*cked up.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: MysteryOpponent
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:44 AM
This is fucking insane.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: scatboy
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:45 AM
holy fuck, is this true? pentagon and the white house mall?

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Redneck
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:46 AM
The initial reports are that it was a plane that crashed into the Pentagon as well.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Matt Palmer
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:46 AM
e_double, I imagine there has certainly been some collaboration between the different middle East factions.
A third plane has now crashed near the US Defence department

Subject: RE: INFO
From: MysteryOpponent
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:46 AM
It has been confirmed that one of the planes was hijacked.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Matt Palmer
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:47 AM
The US Treasury building has also been evacuated.
3 planes have been confirmed as hijacked, all 3 have crashed, 2 at the WTC and one near the US Defence department and a bomb hs gone off in the Pentagon.
All buildings hit have obviously been evactuated or are being. The Whitehouse and the US Treasury building s have now been evactuated.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: sabrutat
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:47 AM
democratic front for the liberation of palestine is claiming responsibility.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Hayashi
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:47 AM
Smoke was said to be coming out of the Pentagon followed by reports of fire. Amazing news. I hope the people responsible for all of this will burn in hell forever.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Kirik
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:48 AM
AP reports it was a plane that hit the Pentagon.
Today's aftermath will be very rough.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Tap Out Boy
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:51 AM
It sounds like we're under attack, fuck the palestinians! It's time for WAR!

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Matt Palmer
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:51 AM
All planes in the US are now being held on the ground, desperate measures but probably very sensible.

Subject: hmm
From: Stronghold
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:52 AM
I wonder what Gore is thinking right now....

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Better MouseTrap
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:53 AM
oh my god

Subject: RE: INFO
From: bryanand
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:53 AM
We are not under attack, they blew their wad with our own transportation systems. Maybe now we will take some tips from Israel and Europe as to how to secure our airports.
If it was the Palestinians, every single one of them will be dead within a week and the whole Israeli conflict will be over.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: jkd_guy
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:53 AM
'I wonder what Gore is thinking right now.... '
Huh?
What does this have to do with Gore?
-Tony

Subject: RE: INFO
From: LgFriess
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:54 AM
War.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Redneck
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:54 AM
Palestinians have claimed responsibility

Subject: RE: INFO
From: nat turner
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:54 AM
this is a bad bad day folks,i am shaking my head in disbelief,my heart goes out to the families of those hurt and killed in this nightmare,unbelievable.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Matt Palmer
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:57 AM
I'm not taking the Palestinian claim as gospel, the Taleban will surely claim the same thing as will Iraqi terrorists. There will be claims and counter claims, it will be a while before we know who are responsable.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: theTexasPsycho
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:57 AM
the ffa has just ordered all planes in the us to land at the nearest airport

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Steve Loftin
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:57 AM
1st aircraft was hijacked 767 from Boston...as reported by CBS
Sears tower in CHicago been evacuated also.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Matt Palmer
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:58 AM
HOLY SHIT! a massive new explosion around the WTC

Subject: RE: INFO
From: jkd_guy
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:58 AM
I'm hearing that the "Building fell"?
-Tony

Subject: RE: INFO
From: bryanand
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:58 AM
One of the buildings just had part of it fall to the ground!!

Subject: RE: INFO
From: nat turner
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:59 AM
The f*cking tower just FELL!!!!! oh my gosh ,man this is sick sick sick it's gone.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: theTexasPsycho
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:59 AM
The second building has completely collasped. The southern tower

Subject: RE: INFO
From: jkd_guy
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:59 AM
double post

Subject: RE: INFO
From: ov1
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:59 AM
I just heard from AP and they have corrected and said that it was a helicopter that hit the pentagon.
and the second tower just collapsed!

Subject: RE: INFO
From: kuksoolgrandhaven
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:59 AM
World trade center just collapsed!!!

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Matt Palmer
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 09:59 AM
The UN building has now been evacuated, shit the WTC tower that collapsed was apparently from a bomb. Some saw there wre two new explosions, I imagine around the base of the WTC

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Redneck
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:00 AM
OMG The Entire Southern Building has collapsed!!!!

Subject: RE: INFO
From: kuksoolgrandhaven
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:01 AM
Somebody has fucked up BIG time!!! Whoever is responsible for this, be warned. The U.S. does not tolorate attacks on it's citizens. There will be retribution.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: cdawg
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:02 AM
holy shit!!! The PDL (Palestinian Democratic Liberation) Has issued a statement saying they are not involved in this attack.
Osama Bin Laden will be dead in a week.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Hayashi
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:02 AM
Holy shit!!! One of the tower just collapsed! Only the lower bottom portion of it is left. My bro says it collpased on the financial district or something. Some Palestinian organisation has claimed responsibility. If that's true I hope those bastards get nuked.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: sak-fu
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:02 AM
Oh Crap! WHERE'S STEVEN SEAGAL WHEN WE NEED HIM!!!

Subject: RE: INFO
From: cdawg
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:04 AM
Osama Bin Laden did it. I bet you anything

Subject: RE: INFO
From: stuvelo
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:04 AM
This makes me sick to my stomach.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: ziggystardust
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:05 AM
SH-T!!! If Palestinians did this, they just did a huge disfavor to their own cause. F-ck all extremists!
My thoughts are with the victims and their families.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: cdawg
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:07 AM
Palestinians denied responsible.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Steve Loftin
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:08 AM
Everone will know whats up within 24 hours. mark my words........the US doesn't take shit like this lightly.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Disease
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:08 AM
It's go time. Find out who did this and we need to skin em and hang em from buildings! Not in my f***ing country you cowards!!!!

Subject: RE: INFO
From: chokinjeff
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:09 AM
more pix please, I don't have a TV. I just heard that one of the towers is GONE!?!

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Redneck
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:09 AM
"Osama Bin Laden will be dead in a week. "
Possibly he will but the frightening thing is that he probably doesnt care. If these people will fly planes into buildings they are not scared by the same things normal people are.
Ironically, the name of the media that the Palestinian Group contacted was the Abhu Dahbi Middle Eastern News Service.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Hapcon
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:10 AM
Palestinian would never be that stupid to do some shit like this. They are a credible government not a true terrorist org. I am betting dollars to donuts that it is Osama Bin Laden. I say fly some planes in Afghanistan and start bombing....
Blood must be repaid in blood

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Steve Loftin
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:13 AM
For the Muslims to die in battle is a one way ticket to heaven. They have nothing to lose by their beliefs.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: chokinjeff
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:14 AM
Um, let's not be too rash. I'd really like to not have to go to war. I didn't know anyone there, and we don't know who actually did it yet. It sux, but I'm running to Canada if we go to war. I've already been there and done that. I have a wife and I value my own personal life, so I'm all for not freakin' out just yet.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Leigh
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:15 AM
well if you have a war don't get us involved - you killed our troops last time

Subject: RE: INFO
From: kuksoolgrandhaven
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:16 AM
My mother works for the Department of Defense. They are evacuating. Here is a message from her bosses.

This is what we get from the higher ups in Detroit.
> -----Original Message----- > From: Dembinski, Duane A. > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:26 AM > To: Detroit/Det - All Users; Detroit/GR - All Users; Detroit/Lima - All Users > Subject: FW: Possible Terrorist Attack on the NY World Trade Center > Importance: High > > ALL PERSONNEL ---- Due to the tragic events in New York, increase your security awareness. As further information on the World Trade Center situation becomes known, it will be shared with all. > > Duane A. Dembinski > > -----Original Message----- > From: O'Day, Sean LTC > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:17 AM > To: DCMDE Commands; DCMA Senior Leadership Team > Cc: Devlin, Margaret > Subject: Possible Terrorist Attack on the NY World Trade Center > > All, > > Please respond accordingly to the two aircraft that just crashed into the New York World Trade Center. Initial reports suggest these are possible terrorist attacks. Your workforce should be briefed to be aware of their surroundings and unknown persons in their areas. > > Vr, Sean > > SEAN P. O'DAY > LTC, USA > Chief of Staff > 617-753-4308 > Fax: 617-753-4303 > Pager: 800-759-8888, PIN 1587731

Subject: RE: INFO
From: bootboy
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:16 AM
ill see you there cause i wouldnt fight at the behest of israel for anything in the world.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Redneck
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:17 AM
They just bombed Capitol Hill

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Kirik
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:17 AM
If it is the PLC-General Command, that is George Habash's group. As you can infer from his name, he is Christian, not Muslim.
There are hundreds of millions of peace loving Muslims worldwide. This is a political, terrorist attack.
I am as passionate as anyone about what happened; I have a sister two blocks from the WTC that I cannot reach as yet.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Wrath of Heaven
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:18 AM
It wasn't a bomb in the pentagon. FOX News just reported it was a plane.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Redneck
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:20 AM
They are saying it was a commercial airliner that hit the Pentagon and also one of the planes that hit the WTC was a commercial flight. :-(

Subject: RE: INFO
From: kuksoolgrandhaven
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:21 AM
Whoever, Muslim, jew, Christian, whatever religion the organization claims, it is on the terrorist; NOT whatever religion they might profess to represent.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: cdawg
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:22 AM
lets keep the racism to a minimum. Whoever did this was a bunch of fuckin whacko's

Subject: RE: INFO
From: DaCrippler
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:22 AM
I heard teh washington monument got hit.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: MysteryOpponent
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:24 AM
Now a possible car bomb explosion at the State Department, and another possible plane hijacked.
Holy shit.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Macri
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:24 AM
This makes me feel sick. Unbelievable...

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Steve Loftin
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:24 AM
no need for racism........terrorists come in all shapes and sizes

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From: cdawg
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:24 AM
60 passengers on the first plane 90 on the second

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From: kuksoolgrandhaven
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:24 AM
90 passengers and crew on board hijacked on first plane. 60 passengers and crew on 2nd plane

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From: Redneck
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:24 AM
cdawg, they were whackos but they were highly organised whackos. This isthe biggest attack the U.s has ever had on its own soil, and its been incredibly successful.

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From: Timbus
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:25 AM
"no need for racism........terrorists come in all shapes and sizes"
good call

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From: Steve Loftin
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:25 AM
We need to pray.

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From: Redneck
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:25 AM
Theres been another Hijacking so watch out.

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From: Disease
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:25 AM
Commercial plane was reported as flying erractily over the white house but then later flew off. I've heard reports of fire here in Sacramento (Capital of California).

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From: Han
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:26 AM


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From: Steve Loftin
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:27 AM
This is a big assault on the US. Very strategic. Very scary. Very real.

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From: cdawg
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:27 AM
this was a well funded attack. Osama bin Laden has supposedly been recieving funds from hard liner middle eastern terrorist groups.

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From: kuksoolgrandhaven
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:27 AM
second tower just fell!!

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From: Redneck
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:28 AM
The second tower just collapsed? Holy Shit!
There has been a declaration of war on the USA by terrorists. It was just announced.

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From: Han
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:29 AM
I dont think it was a militia, they arent into suicide bombings.
I say likely palestinian.

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From: Matt Palmer
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:30 AM
Both towers have now collapsed

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From: El_Tigre
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:30 AM
redneck where did you hear this?

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From: Redneck
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:31 AM
Car bomb at the state department? Another hijacking? These bastards are fucking organised. There must be a lot of people involved to pull this off. We are probably witnessing the beginning of World War 3.

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From: billyball2
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:32 AM
CNN is saying the second tower is down.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Matt Palmer
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:32 AM
A fourth plane is now said to be hijacked and on it's way to Washington.
It has surprised me that since the first plane crashed, the US defence planes have not intercepted the 4th plane.

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From: Redneck
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:32 AM
El Tigre the news about the declaration of war was on the ABC news.

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From: grease
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:33 AM
Both towers have now collapsed. NY looks likes it's been nuked! This makes me sick

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From: savas
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:34 AM
"We are probably witnessing the beginning of World War 3."
Man, I pray you're wrong.

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From: Marco M
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:34 AM
2nd tower just collapsed. Saw it at work. Everyone here is getting sent home and I dont even work in NYC. Suspicious plane driving to Virginia, CIA + FBI headquarters. May God be with us all.

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From: billyball2
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:35 AM
"It has surprised me that since the first plane crashed, the US defence planes have not intercepted the 4th plane."
Shooting down a commmercial plane will be the last resort. They'll make sure there are NO other options...

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From: Redneck
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:35 AM
So do I savas. I just have a bad feeling.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Matt Palmer
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:35 AM
Let's not get over the top here, this will not be world war 3
I never said anything about shooting a plane down, but 300 dead compared to 30,000 dead is a small price to pay. The WTC holds 50,000 people in the two of them, there's no way near half would have got out in 1 hour especially considering the elevators would have been destroyed. A guy who worked in the centre has already said that the elevators smashed to the ground as soon as the planes hit.
Fighters could intercept the planes and guide them away or at least shoot it down over less populous areas.

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From: Timbus
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:36 AM
Are there other options? I don't think so.

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From: hmeboy
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:36 AM
My girlfriend is sending me updates..
a car bomb just exploded at the State building, The Empire State building?
SHe said a plane has crashed into the pentagon and it's being evacuated..
and one crashed NEAR the white house..

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From: Redneck
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:37 AM
"Let's not get over the top here, this will not be world war 3"
It will be for the guys that did it when the U.S catches up with them.

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From: Pratty
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:37 AM
Its not going to be WW3. There are going to be witchhunts all over the world... No government is going to want to be associated with this.

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From: kuksoolgrandhaven
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:38 AM
As do I.
Hopefully not the beggining of ww111. hopefully not. If it's not, this should be a wake up call to all of us. Prepare yourselfs. Arm yourselfs, dried and canned food, water.

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From: Redneck
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:40 AM
Theres been another large plane crash 80 miles from Pittsburgh.

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From: Aigekaze
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:40 AM
When the second tower went down ABC news was silent for a very uncomfortable time . Then did you all hear what he said?" The skyline of New York is changed forever". I dont think I will ever forget that. Ive seen a lot of demolitions and buildings go down a few in person but a two buildings over 1100 feet tall holy shit I cannot fathom this .

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From: hmeboy
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:40 AM
She just told me that the Vice President is Missing..no one knows where he is

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From: hmeboy
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:41 AM
Part of the pentagon has just collapsed

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From: arclight
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:41 AM
Well I think people who have been around can tell you, we have some of the worst security among the superpower nations when it comes to anti-terrorism.
The Europeans have their sh@t together in that regard, but mostly because they deal with it more on a regular basis. Just check out the paramilitary types, huge-ass dogs, and even beat cops with MP5s that patrol European airports. We're not used to much terrorism at all (who would dare to attack us on our own soil, right?) so that has made us extremely arrogant and complacent in terms of security with regards to terrorism.
I'm sure that's gonna change now.
We were ripe to be hit, all it took was someone that was insane enough and organized enough to pull it off.
Let's hope we get the right guys responsible, and not just do some knee-jerk military action to soothe the american psyche.

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From: Redneck
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:42 AM
What hmeboy?

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From: kcbjj
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:43 AM
Can anyone confirm the VP story?

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From: sabrutat
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:43 AM
Just saw some footage from the whitehouse as staff run from the building to get away from it.
Don't run, motherfuckers. Walk. Don't let them see you run. That's what they want.

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From: Timbus
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:45 AM
"we have some of the worst security among the superpower nations when it comes to anti-terrorism."
No dude, you give us too much props... the thing is, no other nation has so many people pissed off at themselves. Europe could never handle that much wrath from terrorists. Never.

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From: e_double
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:46 AM
that is right that they do want to see us panic. but thats okay because i feel fairly confident that they will get what is coming to them.

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From: kuksoolgrandhaven
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:46 AM
fighter jets scrambled over D.C.

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From: Matt Palmer
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:47 AM
London buildings have been evacuated, my friend just phoned from the Financial Times building in Atlantic Warf.

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From: MadDog243
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:47 AM
Another one is inbound to the pentagon! This is insane! We must find the mother fuckers who did this!

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From: kuksoolgrandhaven
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:48 AM
Pitsburg attacked

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From: hmeboy
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:48 AM
the VP may be under the white house, there's a bomb shelter and communications..so he might be there? I don't know..
I'm at school, and only getting second hand updates..
but I'm in Ottawa, and the Parliament buildings, the US embassy and the airports are on high alert..I think I might just go home, fuck this

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From: Rumpus Room
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:49 AM
This is gonna go down as 1 of the craziest days in history.

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From: cdawg
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:49 AM
Damn stef is correct, wow all the doomsayers need to chill out, this isn't world war 3 even though it could be damn close. No terrorist group is strong enough to enter a war with the US. Any no country is that dumb to actually do this.

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From: Redneck
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:50 AM
History in the making indeed.

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From: Matt Palmer
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:50 AM
Glad fighters have finally sent up. Pittsburg plane is down 10 miles away from the main airport.

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From: kuksoolgrandhaven
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:50 AM
Arafat condems attacks.

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From: gfhegel21
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:51 AM
State Department, in Washington. Not many details.

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From: theTexasPsycho
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:52 AM
they just said there was no car bomb at the state department

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From: mwit
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:52 AM
This WW3 crap is nutty. Who do you go to war with? Afghanistan ????

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From: kuksoolgrandhaven
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:52 AM
No terrorist organization can go to war with us, true; however, this could be the imputus that starts the other countries that hate us.
No car bombing at state dept.

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From: many anchovies
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:53 AM
i can smell the burning and smoke from here in hoboken.

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From: luchador
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:53 AM
Geez.........when I woke up this morning I didn't know the country/world would never be the same again. Get ready for ALOT of changes. Life as we know it won't exist. All this time we were worried about biological weapons, we overlooked some things.

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From: Rumpus Room
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:54 AM
No, it's just gonna be more terrorist attacks, unless they're thwarted.

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From: JakePen
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:54 AM
Un-fucking-believable!
There must've been hundreds of rescue workers at the site of the first collapsed Tower. And when the second one went down, God.
I can't believe there are human beings capable of this kind of souless destruction.

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From: Matt Palmer
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:55 AM
War isn't going to happen, as no country is going to war with the US, it's very sophisticated terrorists.

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From: KGraves01
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:55 AM
I was on my way in and heard about it I thought it was bullshit until I was the building. I work near mid-town. It's crazy. NO cell phones work now. I can't get home becauase all traffic in and out of new york has beem stopped. I feel so bad for the people that were there or who have family there. I could see the world trade from my offcie....now there's nothing.

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From: kuksoolgrandhaven
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:55 AM
Afganistan, Saudi, any of the Arab countries, China, Russia, any of the old Soviate republics, who knows. If we're seen as under attack and vulnerable, who knows who would jump in. Then our allies jump in. Who knows.

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From: Timbus
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:55 AM
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From: deepu
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:57 AM
Heard that there is still a plane on the way ot the pentagon. The attacks are still not over.

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From: Hapcon
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:57 AM
kuksoolgrandhaven,
Are you fucking mad... There is no fucking way China or Russia would sponsor terrorism like this...

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From: Redneck
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:58 AM
mwit I know the WW3 stuff is a far stretch but think what could happen if every middle eastern whacko teamed up over this.

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From: hmeboy
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:58 AM
my friend in LA just told me that 3 planes were hijacked from Boston and are on their way to LA
Plane crashed at Camp David!

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From: hubris
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:58 AM
Sudi Arabia, China or Russia? Fucking idiots talking out of the ass. As if these nations would do terroists.

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From: Leigh
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:59 AM
what happened is undoubtedly horrific but stop acting like the the world will never be the same again.

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From: Keoni Koch
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 10:59 AM
Time to start killing

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From: chadeden
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:01 AM
5 planes highjacked 2 for the trade center 2 for pentagon 1 crashed near pitsburg what the fuck is going on

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From: Redneck
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:01 AM
killing who?

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From: Matt Palmer
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:02 AM
All planes on the ground aren't going up, but there are planes in the air and will be for about another 6 hours so we won't know if any will be hijacked mid air.
Pennsylvania plane crashed

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From: Daren
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:03 AM
its on now !! This is going to change our lives forever

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Matt Palmer
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:04 AM
I know what's happened is a tragedy but the world isn't going to drastically change. Anything the US will do will have to wait a while anyway.
This won't change anything, apart from the US will tighten it's airport security. Therre won't be a war as no country is doing this, just a terrorist group. There's no point getting over the top about the repercussions of what will happen.

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From: Kirik
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:06 AM
The day the world came to the USA.

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From: Redneck
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:07 AM
Matt Palmer, I dont think they will be that patient.

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From: Jack & Coke
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:07 AM

I agree... IT'S ON NOW!

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From: chadeden
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:07 AM
i wonder if anyones going to claim resposability

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From: hmeboy
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:07 AM
Another plane crashed at Camp David, just in case you guys missed that
a plane has been hijacked and is on it's way toward the white house

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From: hmeboy
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:08 AM
Parliament in Ottawa has been evacuated
all international flights have been redirected to Canada...

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From: kuksoolgrandhaven
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:08 AM
I didn't say China or russia was responsible. I said that we have to be careful and act like any hostile nation might see us as vulnerable. It is in reference to the WWIII comments. Remembwer how WWI and WWII started? Something like this could cause some middle eastern countries to grow some balls and join in, if that happened who knows.

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From: Matt Palmer
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:11 AM
Bush doesn't have a choice, he cannot do anything until it is confirmed who was responsable. Even then there will have to be a plan formed about how to combat this, as I said it's not as if the US is going to send bombers across to take out major Palestinian targets, it will be terrorists not the Palestine government.

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From: theTexasPsycho
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:12 AM
Hey jack & coke. Why don't you take the sound out now. I'm sure I'm not the only one getting annoyed.

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From: hmeboy
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:12 AM
And besides that, you're still at the mercy of whoever it is
who's to say the worst hasn't come?
This is fucked up

Subject: RE: INFO
From: theTexasPsycho
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:12 AM
Hey jack & coke. Why don't you take the sound out now. I'm sure I'm not the only one getting annoyed.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: kuksoolgrandhaven
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:13 AM
Matt Palmer, have you heard of State Spnsored Terrorism?
What instigated this attack was the first one on the world trade center a few years ago. We are seen as vulnerable and it has encouraged these attacks now.
What next??
Prepare.

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From: Redneck
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:14 AM
With regard to the significance of this date. Does anyone remember the S11 protests around the World last year on September 11th? Those dudes hated America and Globalisation and their name S11 literally meant September 11th. Not saying that they have the ability to do this but I bet they are throwing a party right now.

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From: hubris
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:14 AM
get your head out of your ass. Russia and or China is not going to attack the states.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: cdawg
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:14 AM
damn damn damn

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From: kuksoolgrandhaven
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:18 AM
hubris - review your history. I didn't say anyone WAS going to attack. Look at how World War has started before. WWI was started by an assasination. Then people take sides.

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From: Leigh
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:19 AM
if this gets out of hand then nostradamus would be correct

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From: hmeboy
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:20 AM
A train has just been bombed in downtown Chicago!

Subject: RE: INFO
From: kuksoolgrandhaven
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:21 AM
shit

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From: hmeboy
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:21 AM
A bomb just went off in a high school in NY

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From: buck_naked
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:22 AM
What? Where you get this?

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From: kuksoolgrandhaven
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:23 AM
copy cats. This is how it starts. everyone with a beef with us is now feeling empowered.

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From: Pratty
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:24 AM
I think hmeboy is just making stuff up... a bomb in a high school? train in Chicago? whats your source? now isn't the time

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Matt Palmer
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:24 AM
Leigh, Nostradamus said it would happen in 1999 didn't he?

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Redneck
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:24 AM
hmeboy isnt tuned to the same wavelength we are.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: hmeboy
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:24 AM
I'm at command central here at school!
getting news reports from my girlfriend, plus talking to people in LA and various other parts of the country

Subject: RE: INFO
From: deepu
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:25 AM
hmeboy where are you getting your news?
Deepu

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From: Trust
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:25 AM
Where are you hearing this, hmeboy?

Subject: RE: INFO
From: hmeboy
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:26 AM
screw you guys! I'm not making up fuck all..I'm giving early reports (mind you, they're second hand reports)
people are watching the news and informing me

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From: Jimmy23
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:26 AM
goddam, this is some weird whit

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Redneck
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:26 AM
United Flight 93 to San Fran has crashed near Pittsburgh.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Sebora Absinthe
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:26 AM
Don't fuck around with this...please...don't post false information...

Subject: RE: INFO
From: deepu
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:27 AM
Dude, I was hoping you could give us a link so we could read it directly too. Thanks and keep posting.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: hmeboy
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:27 AM
I wouldn't make up false shit! Not at this time
I'm in Canada's capital, I'm fucking scared just like you guys are

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Disease
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:27 AM
they found a possible bomb at a hs in ny!!

Subject: RE: INFO
From: gzbull
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:28 AM
I am a prior Police Officer and have studied Terrorism in the past. But in my Honest opinion, Saddem and Bin Laden may have jumped on the same boat. And as for the prediction by Nostradamus...well, lets hope it does not go that far!

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From: Disease
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:30 AM
more explosions just went off. camera man went black!!

Subject: RE: INFO
From: kuksoolgrandhaven
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:31 AM
Canada shuts down airports.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Redneck
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:31 AM
Nostradamus also said it would stem from the Middle East.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: kuksoolgrandhaven
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:32 AM
Boing 767 still missing

Subject: RE: INFO
From: theTexasPsycho
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:32 AM
they just said ther is still one more 767 unaccounted for

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From: Tsuneo
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:33 AM
Its gonna be interesting to see what kind of repercussions this will involve. Whichever terrorist group did this must be highly sophisticated - nothin this coordinated has ever even been attempted before.

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From: billyball2
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:33 AM
F-16's are tracking it.

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From: marsupial
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:36 AM
Man, my mind is blown. I'm scared, I was supposed to be in NY next week...

Subject: RE: INFO
From: bryanand
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:36 AM
Bin Laden released a statement 3 weeks ago that the biggest attack in the history of the world was coming...we had our warning and blew it.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Leigh
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:37 AM
matt, from what i remember, he said there would be a yellow war, presumably the chinese, after the second millenium (around 2001). still, he was 500 years ago, so i'd give him a couple of years margin of error

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From: sham
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:38 AM
Man, this is so sad. One plane had to be shot down carrying 54 passengers.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Redneck
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:38 AM
United Flight 175 from Boston to LA may be in trouble now.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: hmeboy
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:40 AM
Redneck, see? I wasn't making shit up!

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Redneck
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:41 AM
The Islamic Gihad (sp?) group have claimed responsibility. They say it was because of the U.S involvement in the Middle East.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: theTexasPsycho
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:41 AM
they just said that there is celebrations going on in palastine. Although, Arofat has given his condolences.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Pratty
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:42 AM
whats the best news channel? you guys are hearing things that I'm not...

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Redneck
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:42 AM
hmeboy no I dont see.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: theTexasPsycho
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:43 AM
i'm listening to cbs news on the radio

Subject: RE: INFO
From: kuksoolgrandhaven
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:43 AM
Take out every known terrorist organization now. The one who didn't do it will just be empowered by this act. Take them all out now. Never again.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: hmeboy
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:44 AM
The LA flights...

Subject: RE: INFO
From: lefthooker
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:45 AM
How many planes are currently still hijacked?
Can anyone confirm this?

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Redneck
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:45 AM
Im watching CNN

Subject: RE: INFO
From: theTexasPsycho
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:46 AM
They just said 2 are still unaccounted for a 757 and a 767

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Redneck
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:47 AM
hmeboy I never noticed where you mentioned a Boston to LA flight. I still havent heard about trains being blown up in chicago or bombs in high schools.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: warez
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:48 AM
So, does this downplay Michael Jordan's comeback to the NBA?

Subject: RE: INFO
From: gzbull
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:48 AM
We all have lost something from this. Regardless if you knew someone involved or not. This type of incident cuts into the very soul of a person and a nation. If you are human, your heart weeps.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: hmeboy
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 11:50 AM
REdneck, scroll up
Disease confirms my story

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Kirik
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 12:01 PM
My sister, who works at Trinity Church two blocks from the WTC just reached me from Central Park. She is shaken but unhurt. Stepped out of the subway, saw the hole, thought "Terrorist." Then the second plane hit and she said okay people "Bye" and ran. She is a good runner.
Headed North, didn't stop till around 100th. And called.
She is heading for New Rochelle or Old Greenwich. Has a Metro Pass.
I will try to pick her up.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Steve Loftin
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 12:02 PM
god bless kirik

Subject: RE: INFO
From: Redneck
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 12:07 PM
Best wishes Kirik.
They just announced that a 4th commercial flight has crashed. United flight 175 from Boston to L.A.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: siouxNYC
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 12:14 PM
kirik, the subways and metro north have been shut down.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: HybridElite
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 12:19 PM
Is the LIRR closed? How about the midtown tunnel and te 59th street bridge? My girlfriend is in there and I want to go and get her out.

Subject: RE: INFO
From: dbauter
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 12:29 PM
CNN has said that 4 planes total have been hijacked and all have crashed. 2 in NY, one in the pentagon and one just outside of Pittsburgh. There are no more unaccounted for planes. As far as anything else going on I haven't heard anything. I've been watching CNN since about 08:00CST this morning

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From: Thomas Mitchell
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 12:31 PM
Isreal is sending help and rescue teams; the Palestenians are handing out candies and celebrating.
Thomas

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From: initiative
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 12:38 PM
This is the saddest day in American History.

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From: scatboy
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 12:39 PM
hopefully this is all over. God bless all that had families there.

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From: cdawg
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 12:40 PM
one plane in clevland is on the ground loaded with explosives and terrorists.

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From: dbauter
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 12:42 PM
They said the plane in Cleveland made an emergency landing because they thought there may have been a bomb on board. Not loaded with explosives and terrorists. Where do you guys here this stuff?

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From: initiative
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 12:42 PM
cdawg,
I am in downtown Cleveland right now. That shit is hitting way too close to home.

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From: UTILITARIAN
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 12:45 PM
50,000 people work at the WTC. I wonder how many people made it out.

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From: Matt Palmer
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 12:45 PM
4 planes have been confirmed as hijacked, 4 have crashed, Pennsylvania, 2 at the WTC, 1 at the Pentagon. There is one more plane on it's way to LA from Boston apparently, does anyone know what has happened to this as it is almost definitely hijacked too, which would make 5 planes not 4.

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From: JoeStagner
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 12:46 PM
TTT Kirk - thats good news.

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From: demandango
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 12:46 PM
WILL AN ADMIN PLEASE DELETE THE POST OF WHATEVER FUCKING IDIOT PUT THAT "LET'S GO MOTHERFUCKER" SOUND CLIP UP?! I AM TRYING TO GET INFO AT WORK AND I CAN'T OPEN THIS THREAD WITHOUT THAT PLAYING

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From: demandango
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 12:46 PM
WILL AN ADMIN PLEASE DELETE THE POST OF WHATEVER FUCKING IDIOT PUT THAT "LET'S GO MOTHERFUCKER" SOUND CLIP UP?! I AM TRYING TO GET INFO AT WORK AND I CAN'T OPEN THIS THREAD WITHOUT THAT PLAYING

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From: billyball2
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 12:48 PM
Turn your sound off until the Admins get the clip off.

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From: cdawg
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 12:50 PM
Did you notice that all the planes hijacked were non stop to LA? They planned so well that they made sure they got the planes that had the highest fuel capacity.

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From: demandango
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 12:52 PM
i am trying to listen to the news at the same time. whoever it is, edit your post fuckface.

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From: MessiahBrain
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 12:52 PM
Maybe they planned to use the LA bound planes to hit LA, attacking the major cities on both coasts..

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From: bryanand
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 12:53 PM
edit- wrong info

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From: cdawg
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 12:54 PM
Mayor Michael White of Cleveland confirmed there is a hijacked plane on the runway loaded with explosives and has 200 passengers at Hopkins airport.

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From: TKDFighter
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 12:55 PM
1 plane was from Boston, one from Newark, 2 from Washington Dulles

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From: MessiahBrain
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 12:57 PM
What was the destination of the Cleveland plane? Were those explosives meant to hit another city...LA?

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From: wizbang
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 12:58 PM
UTILITARIAN ,
We have an field office on the 80th floor of the north building.
We are relieved to know that they made it out with 'only' severe burns.
Based on what we saw on TV, we didn't like the odds for anyone that high up.

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From: Matt Palmer
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 01:43 PM
Any reports on the Cleveland plane, there's nothing being reported about it here, just lots of speculation about who is responsible.

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From: YaskY
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 02:02 PM
FOR HISTORICAL REASONS THIS THREAD MUST BE ARCHIVED!

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From: Disease
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 02:06 PM
They are saying the Clevland plane was probably headed to the white house but something happened. Just FYI all planes were going from east coast to west coast. FULL TANKS OF GAS!! They knew they wouldn't need a bomb with that much fuel!

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From: Mark1
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 02:09 PM
VEry true.
The 757 and 767 were targeted due to the fact that they can carry the greatest amount of fuel of all commercial jetliners.
Mark

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From: Mark1
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 02:09 PM
VEry true.
The 757 and 767 were targeted due to the fact that they can carry the greatest amount of fuel of all commercial jetliners.
Mark

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From: YaskY
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 02:13 PM
I would not be surprised if.
A) the Pilot crashed the plane in PEN on purpose, because he knew what the plan was.
B)The plane was shot down.
I cant waint until they find the black box's from these planes and or release tapes from who ever was talking to them prior to all of these events.

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From: initiative
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 02:15 PM
Yasky is correct.
Save this thread for historical purposes. We are the people speaking directly as this was happening and immediately thereafter - this thread captures are emotions, thoughts, feelings, etc. Archive it.
My heartfelt regrets to all the victims and their friends and families.

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From: Rabbit
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 02:25 PM
Here should be the real interesting thing.
If a plane was downed in Cleveland intact, and the terrorist was drug off alive, chances are we'll have the answers to a good many questions.
Then we can take proper revenge on those responsible. Woe be unto the person who was.

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From: Pratty
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 02:30 PM
These people were willing to die for their cause... I'm sure that they will invoke their right to remain silent in order to protect others in the cause... damn bill of rights

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From: Rabbit
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 02:36 PM
A. The Bill of Rights can be circumvented. Let's say that this attack was a declaration of war, therefore he's a POW. You can make a POW talk.
B. I do not believe that the Bill of Rights applies to noncitizens.
C. Put him in General Population. I think a trip to the showers will make him talk.

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From: Misigoy
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 02:40 PM
People, have any of you noticed the date? September 11.
that's 9-11
this is unbelievable

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From: Sebora Absinthe
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 02:41 PM
Not really.

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From: buck_naked
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 02:43 PM
The 9-1-1 thing is so fucking retarded... what the hell does 9-1-1 mean to anyone from palestine or afghanistan?

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From: billyball2
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 02:44 PM
What's the significance of 9-11?

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From: YaskY
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 02:47 PM
It is the number we dial in case of an emergency. direct line to police fire etc.
It is kinda strange in a way.

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From: Misigoy
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 03:59 PM
911 is synonymous with Emergency here in the US. It's the number we call for assistance in an emergency. I don't think it's a coincidence that they picked today to attack. While this is totally unrelated, it's not the first time terrorists got active on 9-11 though:
On Sept. 11, 1972, the troubled Munich Summer Olympics, also remembered as "the Olympics of Terror," ended. For 21 hours under live television cameras, hooded gunmen of the Palestinian faction "Black September" held Israeli athletes hostage, killing 11 of them during a botched getaway and airport firefight with German antiterrorism squads.

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From: Will W
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 04:21 PM
So you think September 11th has some significance?

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From: paulm
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 04:28 PM
It's biggest significance is that today, the three top heads of the FBI anti-terroist units were apparently in meetings in different parts of the country.

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From: scatboy
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 04:53 PM
someone archive this thread please.

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From: Trust
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 05:02 PM
I already did.

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From: mejane
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 05:12 PM
I don't give too much credence to numerology, but the Olympics reference is scary. What about talk that a Tasmania-related trial was to be held there tomorrow?

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From: mejane
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 05:17 PM


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From: Rabbit
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 05:25 PM
Building 7 in the complex just collapsed.
Thank god they saw that one coming.

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From: kuksoolgrandhaven
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 05:46 PM
This was the week that the Camp David peace accords were signed symbolyzing peace between Egypt and the Isrealis. Alot of Arab countries swore that it would never be forgiven.

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From: Kick to the Head
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 05:49 PM
may god be with the victims and their families.

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From: Jimmy23
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 05:50 PM
This is a sad day in our history, one we wont ever forget.

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From: chokinjeff
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 05:55 PM
PURE SPECULATION!!! Don't react without having all facts at your disposal. Don't make yourself into an idiot sheeple.

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From: Matt Palmer
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 06:56 PM
Have they caught the terrorists from the Cleveland plane? surely they'd be able to identify the nationality of the terrorists if the Cleveland plane is safe, then the US would know for sure who is responsible.

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From: LgFriess
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 07:32 PM
I haven't heard a damn thing on the news about the Cleveland thing. What's going on?!

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From: Schadenfroh
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 07:40 PM
i dunno how anyone can talk about god right now...

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From: Rabbit
Date: 11-Sep-01 | 07:43 PM
Cleveland thing ain't true. Haven't heard a peep, and you know that if someone had been involved with it, they'd been all over it since cdawg posted about it.


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I wrote a poem/prose a little after that tragic day:



Also I posted something my friend "kot1k" wrote about that infamous day:




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